Beiträge von Doron Papo

welcome
looking for some pictures when the lantern is fully operational

Hi Anthony
No need to replace the whole pre-heater, just the pre-heater gasket.

This is the rubber gasket in part #229 that closes the pre-heater nipple.
Nitrile Rubber is the best for that.

Hi
It dose sound that you have a air leak somewhere.
I will do what el_largo suggested and pressure test the lantern underwater
(not lighted of-course )
2/3 of a tank should hold at least 6hr

A good day at the flee market
I found the matching pair for my Picostar - a 500cp Daylite (on the right)
now need to look for the right hood and pump

these lantern are from the dutch BB better known as the civil defence.
kerosene lanterns where part of the equipment of the hospital group of the "BB". In a mobile medical group "Mobiel Geneeskundige Groep (MGG)", three lanterns where present. Their stock number was MD41.
With this lantern also came a pakket of (spare) parts.
MD 41-01 Jet needles
MD 41-02 Needle key
MD 41-03 Jet
MD 41-04 Hand jet cleaner
MD 41-05 Pressure gauge sealing
MD 41-06 Universal key
MD 41-07 Globe
MD 41-08 Mantle

marked with MD41, on the apparatus itself and on the packing.
The "BB" was put out of service in 1986.
As far as known there was only one order given in the period 1952 -1955.
Dating these MD41 lanterns brings us then to 1952 -1955.

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Thanks all for the help
I forgot about this thread and I owe you this image:

Hi
In order to convert a 200A lantern for kerosene you need two things:
1. Pre-heating cup for the generator
2. Coleman 201 generator - Part #201B5891

Coleman has the 201 lantern which is almost the same as the 200,
Difference are:
generator,pre-heating bowl, and no fuel and air tube just straight copper tube.
all other differences are only cosmetic

I must agree with Minimax
Do not use petrol/white gas/gasoline in a Petromax type lantern!!
This is to dangerous for this type of lantern
please read this as well:
http://home.planet.nl/~veld399…ale/petromax_myth_qa.html

As I said very nice lamp
If using a non original glass on it - I would recommend the Coleman 200 bulge glass, looks much better and closer to original

A work well done!
beautiful lantern

No need to apologize for taking the pictures
it is the real need to show off
I will always allow use of my images for the credit no need to ask again
Austramax parts and Coleman parts are different.
Parts for Austramax are still available as the lantern is still in production
here is link Austramax parts
The metal screen on the burner could be made out of stainless steel net
I did replace one in a Coleman 249 and it works great

Hi
I am happy that you like my austramax (two first images)
you can see it and other on my site Art of Light
This is a very well made lantern and its one of my favoirites its a bit smaller the n coleman 242 and gives out 300cp.
and the link to Allen Moor's site gives all other information - they pop up from time to time on the big auction site.
(BTW - some credit for the images would have been appriciated )

These lanterns seem to have been made from the same tooling as Day-Lite brand products. The valve wheels have “CL” on them so it is possible they were made by Continental-Licht. Company which was one of the 4 original partners in the patents for the Petromax type lantern
Date is 1950’s ~1960’s

Hi
Sorry for the reply in English – but my German is Google based
The Coleman 247 is a kerosene\gasoline lantern and came to replace the 242K
And later replaced by the 249.
These are not so rare but a less common and there are two more variations one with a green fount and the other with a larger fount marked CPR (Canadian pacific rail) which are more desirable.
The generator for these is still available and it’s the same as Coleman 201 – Part# 201B5891 so using it as a regular lantern is an option
It is rated at 300cp and will use either #21 or #99 mantle (depends on your specifically some like the bigger mantle better)
The ventilator should be green and as it looks yours is painted silver for some resone.
This is a simple design lantern and should be made to run in no time
The glass is not the original one but a replacement part from the 1970’s
The original one is the same type but will have a fade Coleman logo in green on it

yes thats it

Hi, Christop I don’t mind the questions, this is why we post here
A lot of fumes – well I never saw any difference between other lanterns and a Petromax on this issue – it could be explained by people not used to 500cp lantern and usually use the 300cp – and the 500cp produces a lot more heat obviously.
As for the pumping – it is a 500cp lantern and it takes a little more then a 300cp
But not to much and if you have the pressure indicator you pump it enough each time there is no excessive pumping
More trouble then it worth that is a good point – if people think that a pressure lantern is more trouble then it worth then they shouldn’t have a pressure lantern
I don’t have any difference in working with either brands.
People that use white gas sometimes find that the pre-heating procedure for kerosene is to much trouble but this is true for every kerosene lantern even a Coleman
Petromax is something completely different then a Coleman and if you like pressure lantern well I may say this is a must
And as I always say if you have more to tinker with the better

Hi Christop
Well I am located not very far from you – only about 7000 miles away
I am located in Israel – and I have lanterns from various sorts
Coleman, Pteromax, Tilly, Austramax and more (not enough :D)
The vintage German lanterns are from very good quality – but I would not say they are much better made – the old Coleman’s are also well made to and much more simple.
The Petromax type lantern has some advantages – There is a lot more to play with and tinker as they are more complex –their principle is very different from a Coleman.
And that the parts are the same for almost all – is great
But remember they are kerosene lanterns and not Coleman fuel as they don’t have a positive shutoff valve and the check valve is spring loaded.
Used with the right fuel and with care these are excellent lanterns too and the 500cp one are awesome regarding light output

Hi All
The lantern is alive again
Thank you all for the help!!
First of all for Tobi for the nut that holds the tube and for Jonas for the parts and tools

Hi
Maybe I was misunderstood but the AIDA brand is no longer manufactured
they are vintage and of very good quality.
The are not fully compatible to Petromax and unless you are a collector I wouldn’t go with that because sometimes parts are hard to get.
The vintage Petromax are also from very good quality and some for some models all parts are easily available
The other question is what do you want the lantern for and in what part of the world you are.
I don’t have Aida but have several Pmax's all were found in so-so sate and today look almost like new after restoration
so if you don’t mind some work some time a bad looking lantern is a diamond in the rough
Were to find them other then ebay - its again a question were you live

Hi welcome to the board
You can find two good reading sources here:
Aida
Petromax

Aida and Petromax are well built lanterns and there are several copies with the same brand name today that their quality varies
if you are looking for one I would go with an original Petromax from the 1960's or earlier

if you want more let us know