Hi there,
if you have any old/strange or unknown lamp, maybe this link is helpful for you.
It has a huge variety of lantern models with pictures and short explanations.
This will help before you start your next trip to the local flea market 
http://terrence.marsh.faculty.noctrl.edu/lantern/index.htm
See you
Orthotiger
That link doesn't work 
Maby You have a new one ?
the server is not online during these holidays! please wait a cupple of days
Hi all.
They had some server problems but the site is online again. 
i have a question, petromax, geniol are made by the same factory ?
Hi Lorenzo,
Nope, Petromax was produced by Erich&Graetz in pre-War-Times in Berlin,
in post-War-times by Graetz in Altena(Germany) until the 1970ties
From there on it was sold under the name Geniol by Fa. Heinze in Wuppertal
but produced in Portugal.
And under the License-name Santhrax produced in China.
Now it is produced under the name Petromax for Pelam LTD. but still in China.
Hope this helps, best regards, Björn
identification number
829B 500HK 11 1965
1965 it's the year , 829 B 500HK model, and 11 ? it's perhaps the month ?
Correct, 11 means November 1965
So it is a Petromax from German production - a very good one, originally produced for german Army.
Lots of fun an light with it, best regards, Björn
ZitatOriginally posted by Benz-ihn
Correct, 11 means November 1965
So it is a Petromax from German production - a very good one, originally produced for german Army.
Lots of fun an light with it, best regards, Björn
but this is original and unused still with the paper around the glass ( I did not light up ! ) and on the metal case transport are printed " altena " but without a manual 
, but i have buy another lamp used , it's this :
that the top and the pressure gauge are marked geniol , and the tank is petromax ?, i thik that it was assembled with different part, it's true.
What accessories including manuals along with the german army lamp ?
on the topo of case:
"
lantern petroleum
M.ZUB IN AUF BEW-KASTEN
GRAETZ KG,PETROMAX ALTENA/W
TYPE 829b 465HK
6260-12-121-6097"
what's the meaning ?
Altena was the City, Petromax produced lamps after WW2.
And its true, the other Lamp was propably been fittet with replacement-parts, later than the 1970ties..
In the Army, there was no interest to keep Lanternparts separated by model - it has to work, so parts were changes thrue... Me myself did this in the german Airforce.
In one Lampbox there had to be several spareparts/ replacementparts.
First the tools, needlescrewer, unitool and handneedle, than mantles, one funnel, led-seals, some nozzles and needles, one Ceramic-burner, one pump-leather, some Carburetor-seals and some pump- and rapid-seals.
This should have been all, I cannot tell exact numbers, but normally, there were three replacement-nozzles and fife mantles.
Best Regards, Björn
ZitatAlles anzeigenOriginal von LorenzoS
lantern petroleum
M.ZUB IN AUF BEW-KASTEN
GRAETZ KG,PETROMAX ALTENA/W
TYPE 829b 465HK
6260-12-121-6097"
what's the meaning ?
This tells:
Kerozene Lantern
with replacement-parts in Storage-box
Graetz Company, Petromax, produced in Altena /Western Germany
Lantern-Model 829B 465 Heffner Kerzen - almost similar to candle powers
Army-request-number 6260-12-121-6097
the only part there is it's the funnel, a wrench-tool. in the never used
in the used lamp there is a funnel wrench-tool, and 3 coleman mantle !?
what is the function of the wire inside the box to the left?
Sounds like private-replacement - but the coleman-mantles are not that bad - should work in Petromax either.
replacement-parts you should get from the shop http://www.pelam.de 
And dont be shy to light the used one - but check all seals before.
It should look this way:
ZitatAlles anzeigenOriginally posted by Benz-ihn
Sounds like private-replacement - but the coleman-mantles are not that bad - should work in Petromax either.
replacement-parts you should get from the shop http://www.pelam.de
And dont be shy to light the used one - but check all seals before.
It should look this way:
the german army lamp new are for the collection i did not light up !
the other lamp (used) is disassembled for cleaning !
what function has the wire on the left side inside the box ? that indicated by the red arrow.
Hehe - you found the treasure
This wire was topic in lots of german treads - in fact, nobody knows really, even old army personnel doesn't know whatfore it is.
The most possible purpose is, that in the mid-1950ies, the German army ordered the first Lamps and wanted to have a kind of shade that could be disassembled and placed along with the lantern inside the box - but then, when manufacturing of lamps and boxes started, didn't ordered the shade - but that box-design hadnt changed any more... so this wire-thing stayed.
Maybe someday this will be found out - or not 
treasure hunt !
cool, you should post this in "Stammitsch" ->Humor Tread ! it is still great:D
